Is it possible for other professions to maintain SF with cons? - Guild Wars Forums

Sethellington · Dec 24, 2009, 06:07 PM // 18:07

Is it possible for a different caster profession to maintain SF by using Deadly Paradox, Essence of Celerity and a 20% Enchanting weapon? I doubt it somehow, but thought I'd check...

Covah · Dec 24, 2009, 06:12 PM // 18:12

all can with +1 cons like eggs, lunar fortunes etc.

Dzjudz · Dec 24, 2009, 06:20 PM // 18:20

Assassin of Lyssa
Lunar Fortune
Golden Egg
Candy Corn
Grail of Might

So, yes

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Cuilan · Dec 24, 2009, 06:28 PM // 18:28

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/f...t10418653.html
The above link has images and video of an E/A, but I'm sure it's possible too on an Mes/A.

jackinthe · Dec 24, 2009, 07:26 PM // 19:26

just to be clear, you need to get your shadow arts to at least 15 for this to work

Loot Junkie · Dec 24, 2009, 08:06 PM // 20:06

Seth, 2 summers ago when SF was buffed to the point of being perma-able, UWSC's were done with eles due to a stronger and longer sliver armor. Anet didn't like that just about any primary with assassin secondary could perma SF, so last december they made it impossible to do without a crapload of personal cons.

Frozen Ele · Dec 24, 2009, 09:23 PM // 21:23

I didn't watch the video Cuilan posted, but you can perma on an ele using:

Shadow Form (12 Shadow Arts)
Deadly Paradox
Glyph of Swiftness
Weapon of Enchanting
Essence of Celerity

Here's the math:

SF recharge time = 45sec
With Deadly Paradox (33% faster recharge) becomes 30sec
With Deadly Paradox and Glyph of Swiftness (25% recharge) becomes 22.5sec
With Deadly Paradox, Glyph of Swiftness and Essence of Celerity (20% faster recharge) becomes 18sec

At 12 Shadow Arts, SF lasts 18sec
With a weapon of enchanting (20% longer) it lasts 21.6sec

When you through in cast time (1 sec), you're still looking at 19sec vs. ~22sec, which makes it so that an ele can maintain SF (without using too many consumables)

Dzjudz · Dec 24, 2009, 09:52 PM // 21:52

Problem: recharge doesn't stack past 50%. So you need multiple +1 attribute boosts to make SF last longer so you can handle the 50% recharge.

Frozen Ele · Dec 25, 2009, 01:01 AM // 01:01

I had no idea, thanks!

Dec 24, 2009, 06:07 PM // 18:07	#1
Sethellington Jungle Guide Join Date: Sep 2005 Guild: nn Profession: N/	Is it possible for other professions to maintain SF with cons? Is it possible for a different caster profession to maintain SF by using Deadly Paradox, Essence of Celerity and a 20% Enchanting weapon? I doubt it somehow, but thought I'd check...

Dec 24, 2009, 06:12 PM // 18:12	#2
Covah Forge Runner Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Guild: Catching Jellyfish With [소N트T ] Profession: Me/Rt	all can with +1 cons like eggs, lunar fortunes etc.

Dec 24, 2009, 06:20 PM // 18:20	#3
Dzjudz Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz	Assassin of Lyssa Lunar Fortune Golden Egg Candy Corn Grail of Might So, yes .

Dec 24, 2009, 06:28 PM // 18:28	#4
Cuilan Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2008 Profession: Me/	http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/f...t10418653.html The above link has images and video of an E/A, but I'm sure it's possible too on an Mes/A.

Dec 24, 2009, 07:26 PM // 19:26	#5
jackinthe Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jan 2007	just to be clear, you need to get your shadow arts to at least 15 for this to work

Dec 24, 2009, 08:06 PM // 20:06	#6
Loot Junkie Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: in a utopian dream Guild: clan dethryche[dth] Profession: N/	Seth, 2 summers ago when SF was buffed to the point of being perma-able, UWSC's were done with eles due to a stronger and longer sliver armor. Anet didn't like that just about any primary with assassin secondary could perma SF, so last december they made it impossible to do without a crapload of personal cons.

Dec 24, 2009, 09:23 PM // 21:23	#7
Frozen Ele Jungle Guide Join Date: Jul 2009 Guild: Mirror of Reason [SNOW] Profession: E/N	I didn't watch the video Cuilan posted, but you can perma on an ele using: Shadow Form (12 Shadow Arts) Deadly Paradox Glyph of Swiftness Weapon of Enchanting Essence of Celerity Here's the math: SF recharge time = 45sec With Deadly Paradox (33% faster recharge) becomes 30sec With Deadly Paradox and Glyph of Swiftness (25% recharge) becomes 22.5sec With Deadly Paradox, Glyph of Swiftness and Essence of Celerity (20% faster recharge) becomes 18sec At 12 Shadow Arts, SF lasts 18sec With a weapon of enchanting (20% longer) it lasts 21.6sec When you through in cast time (1 sec), you're still looking at 19sec vs. ~22sec, which makes it so that an ele can maintain SF (without using too many consumables)

Dec 24, 2009, 09:52 PM // 21:52	#8
Dzjudz Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz	Problem: recharge doesn't stack past 50%. So you need multiple +1 attribute boosts to make SF last longer so you can handle the 50% recharge.

Dec 25, 2009, 01:01 AM // 01:01	#9
Frozen Ele Jungle Guide Join Date: Jul 2009 Guild: Mirror of Reason [SNOW] Profession: E/N	I had no idea, thanks!